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The photo above (left) of Shara Bajurin was the cover of
California Legal Pro (Insights for the other Legal Professionals),
Summer 2008 published by Recorder. Inside photo is of Shara with
the article, which is reprinted below. As you will see, San Mateo
County Legal Secretaries Association was well represented, although the
association itself was not mentioned by name. In addition to
Shara, SMCLSA members Bonnie J. Stensler, PLS, CCLS and Mary L. King,
CCLS were interviewed, as well as LSI's new president, Christa Davis,
who is a member of Livermore-Amador Valley LPA, Mae Brooks, member of
Ventura County LPA, and Patty Russell, member of Santa Clara County LSA.
"An Evolution"
Lawyers don't always know how to utilize their
secretaries. Just look at the online legal tabloid Above the Law: In one
post last October, editor David Lat, a former big-law attorney,
confessed to not using his own secretary very much. Other attorneys,
particularly junior ones, commiserated with gripes like, "I have no idea
what to do with mine."
Maybe that's because the legal secretary's job has
changed so much, due at least in part to evolving office technology, the
departure from one-on-one staffing ratios, and the work habits of newer
generations of lawyers.
"Technology gives all these benefits to the attorneys,
which in turn makes secretaries faster so we can support more attorneys.
But what they're getting is a completely different thing from their
staff," notes Shara Bajurin, a legal secretary at Burlingame 's Carr
McClellan Ingersoll Thompson & Horn.
As Outlook calendars and BlackBerrys have become more
common, for example, many attorneys have taken on more responsibility
for keeping track of their schedules, since they can access their
calendars from just about anywhere. More of them answer their own
phones, too, or get their messages through voicemail, longtime legal
secretaries note.
That doesn't mean legal secretaries aren't still
covering plenty of ground. Many of them still deal with calendaring and
scheduling, as well as tasks like billing, mass mailings, drafting
correspondence or pleadings, organizing case files, and readying
documents for court submission.
But the way they approach some of those tasks has
definitely changed.
Legal assistant Mae Brooks, for example, does a lot of
scanning nowadays — it's how she and her attorney organize each file.
"We scan everything now," says Brooks, of Ventura 's Ferguson Case Orr
Paterson. "If we want to look at a file, because we've scanned
everything [we can] call it up on the computer and it's all there."
And whether the tasks are relatively modern or totally
traditional, new lawyers, especially, may be unaware of what's
appropriate to delegate, some legal secretaries observe.
"When they're brand-new right out of university, they
in all likelihood never had a secretary, so never knew how to use one,"
says Mary King, a longtime veteran of the profession. "The secretaries
would have to say, 'If you're away from your desk and you want me to
answer your phone, you have to tell me.'" Or, don't waste your billable
time making copies — but don't ask someone to copy a single MCLE form
that's not "work-related," either. "That," says King, "is the difference
between an experienced attorney and one who's not."
MODERN DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN EASY
The self-sufficiency of some lawyers, particularly
younger ones, has taken some tasks out of legal secretaries' hands. But,
of course, that hasn't always made life easier.
"The older attorneys, they grew up with: You dictated it, you gave it to
your secretary to do," says Brooks, who leads the transactional law
section for Legal Secretaries Inc., a statewide professional
organization for legal support staff. "Now most of the attorneys coming
out of law school generate their own [draft] documents on the computer."
That still often leaves secretaries to put on the finishing touches —
proofreading, formatting, adding indexes, filling out proofs of service.
But Brooks and others say the window of time they get to do these things
can wind up being tighter now.
"We can get our rushes out quicker," notes Patty
Russell, a legal secretary at Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker in Palo
Alto . But, "the attorneys now do their own work and take forever to
release the documents [to us]."
And there are also more revisions to process now,
since they're no longer the hassle they were in the days of typewriters.
"When you have computers … the attorneys think they
[can] say whatever they want to say, and then revise, revise, revise,"
says King, a longtime legal secretary who retired in February from
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati.
And despite attorneys' growing self-sufficiency in
some areas, LSI President Christa Davis isn't concerned the legal
secretaries' profession is dying — she just thinks it's changing.
By way of example, Davis , now administrator at
Pleasanton family law firm Staley Jobson, notes that attorneys don't
always have a good grasp of each court's time frames and rules. "That's
where I think sometimes a secretary's really valuable: They establish
the contacts and networking within the court system."
WORKPLACE DYNAMICS
The evolution of the job description has, in some
ways, been reflected in legal secretaries' relationships with their
attorneys and fellow staff. "There was a time when I might be expected
to make coffee, to do Christmas cards for the family, or any typing of
personal items," Bajurin says. "That is just not happening anymore."
Though one-on-one attorney-secretary relationships
still exist, legal secretaries now peg typical ratios at 3-to-1, with
some as high as 6-to-1.
One of the inevitable consequences: limited face time.
"You don't have the time and the bandwidth to be able
to sit with one person at any one time," says Bonnie Stensler, a legal
secretary at Fenwick & West in Mountain View .
E-mail has done a lot to replace face-to-face, or even
phone, communication: It's how Stensler receives most instructions from
the two partners and two associates she supports. And it's how she most
often communicates with her counterparts in clients' offices.
Walking the hallways at work, the dominant sound is no
longer phones ringing, she says. "You hear the fingers on the keyboard."
Bajurin, though, also reports feeling more of a sense
of teamwork in the office now than in the 1980s, when she began her
career.
She found it more difficult to work with women
attorneys many years ago, she says. "They wouldn't use a photocopier.
They wouldn't do things that appeared secretarial, because they wanted
to appear more attorney-like."
That's not the story any longer. "I really think the
women attorneys today have benefited from the women before them, but
they don't have that same fear of seeming secretarial when they come
into an office," Bajurin says. Now, "everybody seems to pitch in."
The Recorder
By Pam Smith
June 16, 2008
The above article was
published in The Recorder's "Legal Pro" publication on June 16, 2008.
SMCLSA was well represented in the article.
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"Minding Meeting Manners"
By: Jennifer Juergens
At one seminar, the speaker shouted at two people in
the last row who were having their own conversation. At a luncheon,
attendees walked out when they finished eating, well before the panel
finished their discussion. At the airport, the meeting planner sent a
luxury motor coach for arriving attendees. Several decided to rent cars
instead. In another instance, one speaker, after hearing one man's cell
phone ring on three separate occasions during his talk, finally stopped
in mid-sentence and said, "You better answer that."
Are these isolated incidences? Hardly, says Joan
Eisenstodt, president of Eisenstodt Associates/Meeting Management and
Consulting in Washington, D.C. "Nobody sets norms anymore. I can
understand if the session is boring and you want to leave, but a few
years ago that never would have happened. … People today can't
separate their private and public behavior." Many industry
professionals agree that the behavior of people today is uncertain. And
although it's not clear as to why more people are acting rude and
inappropriately, one thing's for sure: There's less face-to-face contact
and more improper behavior. "I think it started with the fax and
the convenience of having not to speak to anyone," explains speaker
Gloria Hutter of Gloria Hutter & Associates, a San Francisco-based
protocol and etiquette company. "And now with voice-mail and e-mail
it's very easy not to have to be confronted face-to-face. People have
developed easy ways to avoid having social graces and person-to-person
contact. And some people have grown up with this, and they don't like
the idea of having to report in to someone or look them in the eye. It's
easier to do it by e-mail or voice-mail."
It isn't news that meeting planners complain about
rude attendees and their general lack of acceptable behavior. Still, is
it up to the meeting planner to establish proper etiquette during a
meeting? Jacqueline Whitmore, founder of The Protocol School of Palm
Beach, Fla., thinks so. "Meeting planners have to establish a
criteria ahead of time. There should be a sheet handed out or sent
before the meeting. In this letter you can have some bullet points such
as put your cell phone on vibrating or silent mode, so it does not
interrupt the meeting. A lot of people forget, so it's not uncommon to
put a sign on the door that cell phones are prohibited. A meeting
planner has to establish these guidelines."
Harith Wickrema, president of Harith Productions,
Inc., a meeting planning company based in Fort Washington, Pa., agrees.
He says that people are not as well mannered today, but that's because
people sometimes just don't know any better. "We didn't have this
technology years ago, so people weren't using cell phones," he
says. "It's up to the presenter to remind attendees before their
speech to turn off their cell phones. Attendees have so much going on
sometimes they simply forget," he says.
Yet on top of all that is demanded of a meeting
planner, it's apparent that establishing rules and modes of proper
etiquette during a meeting has become a job requirement. "It is
also the job of the company," Hutter explains, "but the
planner should set the tone of the meeting. It would be a very good
point for the meeting planner to offer protocol services to the client
and find out if they are interested in conducting their meetings this
way. I think it would be wonderful and a great step if more meeting
planners would start implementing social etiquette into their programs
because it would change the working atmosphere. People would start to
think about it." And more planners are starting to do this. Lois
Blankstein, director of meetings and exhibits for the American Society
of Mechanical Engineers, for example, feels responsible to do something
when people are disruptive or there are issues of public safety.
"If someone is smoking inside and it is a nonsmoking building I
think I would ask someone to stop," she says. "If I saw
someone taking pictures of someone in a trade show booth I'd make sure
they have permission."
Yet once on-site, meeting planners can't be solely
responsible for attendees' behavior. "Sometimes planners are not
even at the conference they plan," says Barbara Mischuk, assistant
meeting planner at AIG Life Insurance Co., based in New York. "The
most they can do is send out literature ahead of time to inform and
communicate. You might have something more important to do than tell
someone they are dressed inappropriately. You can anticipate it, but you
can't control it. Meeting planners take on a silent role on-site. If
you're worried about cell phones in a meeting room, put that information
in a brochure beforehand and have the speaker make an announcement at
the beginning of the speech to turn cell phones off."
Planners' Pet Peeves
Technology and cell phones aside, just plain chatting,
cutting in line and piling food on plates are things that really get
under some people's skin. "I was at a luncheon recently where the
two women sitting next to me were talking during the speaker. I just
looked at them and said, ‘excuse me.' They got the message," says
Whitmore. The one thing planners say bother them more than anything is
people putting themselves above everyone else. "Some attendees
bring uninvited guests to everything and then expect the planner to
accommodate them," explains Noelle Rutter, CMP, director of
meetings and incentives, California Host, in San Diego. "One person
brought a three-year-old. We didn't have a car seat. If one person does
it, why can't everybody do it? "If there's a PowerPoint
presentation in a darkened room and people are leaving the session it's
so distracting. I'm trying to tune them out, and it's disrespectful to
the speaker." Whitmore agrees, but says, "You're always going
to have latecomers, so planners should have seats in the back for these
people. You can't really stop that from happening because people are
going to be late because of traffic or because another session ran
overtime." She says it's best to keep someone stationed at the door
to keep it from banging in the back of the room. Rutter also says that
sometimes attendees will check out of the hotel and not tell anyone, so
the food count is off. "Changes actually cost the corporation
money. At one meeting there were 22 spa appointments that weren't used.
We rented kayaks that weren't used. If we're doing a dinner and it's
$150 a person and 10 people don't show up, the money's out the window.
All this could be avoided with one phone call," she says. Some
planners have been known to have friends—and even a bellman—at the
ready to use tee times that attendees don't show up for, she says.
"The company is paying for it anyway. We understand that it's
important to give people what they want, and people make changes. But I
can save the client money if we have better communication."
Blankstein, director of meetings and exhibits for the
American Society of Mechanical Engineers, says that she's surprised by
people's rudeness in everyday life and that it just carries over to
meetings. "I remember when people brought their laptops to
meetings, and they would expect us to provide extension chords for them.
Then it is annoying for the person next to them to have to listen to the
tapping of the keys.
"We have meetings where people dress in all
different ways, and I don't think we should legislate how people dress.
I think mode of dress is a personal choice. People looking alike leads
to a lack of diversity in thoughts and ideas and that's just what we're
trying to foster at meetings."
One thing that really bothers Blankstein, though, is
attendees piling on food like they've never eaten. "Then they take
two bites and throw it all away," she says. "And it seems to
be the ones who complain about the high cost of registration. Or people
stay at a reception long after it's over—even if the hotel wants to
turnover the room. I think attendees should have a sense of what's
happening and conduct themselves accordingly."
Protocol Tips "You
can't buy etiquette," says Whitmore. "I still see corporate
executives stab meat like wild beasts or others who can't make an
introduction. It really is a bad reflection on the company. Some
companies need a training program for top-level management on how to
make eye contact and how to remember names. Some companies have
hired protocol officers to train people on the basics.
"I tell executives they have to do their homework if they're going
to do business in another country. They need to observe the culture and
establish guidelines. Prior planning prevents poor performance. Everyday
we're offending other people because we've become a lax society."
Travis Yates, chief executive officer of the special events and Web
design company Remington Agency in Gainesville, Fla., agrees. "One
of the things I picked up in the Navy is, if you have to go somewhere
you're not familiar with, learn the terrain. Do some research ahead of
time. Go to the tourist board to find information. Use the Internet. If
you call EPCOT in Orlando, they have a division that can answer
questions for meeting planners. You can't do enough research, but don't
do research only with Americans. If you tell a Japanese person you
earned a black belt in three years it's offensive to them. It takes them
their whole lives to earn a black belt." But what happens when a
speaker reprimands two people talking in the back of the room only to
find out one of the offenders is actually a translator for the other?
"This could have been avoided," says Whitmore, "if the
needs of the client had been anticipated. If the planner had known ahead
of time, the planner could have had a special place for an interpreter.
This could all be put in a questionnaire to the attendees and speakers
along with such questions of dietary needs or if they have any
disabilities such as trouble hearing or seeing."
Whitmore recommends several books on international
etiquette including, Dos and Taboos Around the World by Roger Axtell;
Dun and Bradstreet's Guide to Doing Business Around the World by Conoway
and Morrison, and Multi-Cultural Manners: New Rules of Etiquette by
Noreen Dresser. "Civility costs nothing, but a lack of civility can
cost a corporation millions of dollars in lost revenue," Whitmore
says.
If planners want things to run smoothly during
meetings, without having to take on the role of a reprimanding
chaperone, they'll have to be prepared beforehand. "Set up
guidelines that won't disturb the core of the meeting or dinner,"
says Hutter. "Suggest that they have a place where they can check
in for their cell phone messages later."
Meeting planner Rutter is also a firm believer in
getting all the information out up front. "It starts with filling
out the registration form completely. Registering on-line is great
because the form won't submit until everything is filled out. The
problem is that sometimes we're starting without all the information.
Attendees change travel plans or don't come to the meetings at all, and
we never hear about it. We're here to save the client money. I see a lot
of waste. When someone gets a rental car and doesn't tell us and we have
a car and a staff member waiting for them it's a waste." Rutter
also says that when people change their check-in dates the client ends
up paying for rooms that are never used. "You are a guest and the
host has taken time to put together the itinerary. Sometimes you have a
full bus and you'll have one attendee who has decided to rent a car come
up and ask us for directions to the hotel and hold everyone up. Now we
give maps to the convention services manager, the concierge and the bus
driver," Rutter says. During the meeting, says Rutter, it's
important to build in housekeeping notes and reminders for attendees
such as: wear business attire; be on time; turn off your cell phone;
refrain from talking during a session; and clap when appropriate.
"This takes the responsibility away from attendees." Rutter
says one of her clients recently enforced meeting manners in a unique
way. "We had a military theme, a flight school with dog tags and
military buses. We had MPs in uniform policing the halls, and attendees
were told to be in their seats at 0800 hours. "It let attendees,
the squadron, know that we respect their time," explains Rutter.
"If they were in the hall and not in the meeting they got a pass.
This let them know it was important to us that they were in session and
not making calls to their office." Patty Habeeb, president of
Conventions a la Carte in New Orleans, advises planners to use the
checklists found in meetings magazines as a guideline. "Anyone who doesn't use them is a fool," she says. "It's
hard for a first-time planner to know these things," she says.
"Nobody is perfect. I rely on checklists, and those that don't are
not in this business very long." Eisenstodt says to put everything
in writing to attendees. "It's up to the planners who run the
meeting. I think that whatever you can do to make people understand that
food at meetings, sidebar conversations, cell phones, beepers, anything
that is disturbing or interferes with everybody's learning is
wrong." Hortense Noble of Noble Events in New York City, whose
companies produces medical, pharmaceutical and financial meetings, says
she uses "major discretion" in handling certain situations.
"These people are professional. We make sure we make housekeeping
announcements to turn off cell phones in the meeting room, and they can
direct calls to the registration desk. You're going to have the odd
person whose phone goes off. It's going to happen. They don't mean to be
rude, they just forget. They're very embarrassed when their phones go
off.
"It's our responsibility to send out the
information on dress code ahead of time, but once they're there, there's
nothing you can do about how they're dressed. We had someone show up in
a sweater for a black tie event. Look, they're probably going to feel
uncomfortable and leave anyway. It's not my job. I leave those things
alone.
"If people are talking in the meeting room it's
not my job to tell them to stop. It's not my responsibility. Their own
peers will let them know it's inappropriate. We're there to make sure
everything looks fabulous and gets done. In terms of how people act or
behave or look, that's out of our league. A lot has to do with how
people see themselves. Our responsibility is to give out the correct
information. We're not their parents."
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